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In todayβs podcast, Dr. Alex Jimenez, Health Coach Kenna Vaughn, and Sports Dietitian Lizette Ortiz discuss how food substitutions can help a person feel full and provide the necessary nutrients for a healthy body.
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[00:01:51] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Hey, guys, weβre coming to you live from the amazing PUSH Fitness Center. Today we have an excellent, fantastic guest that is now a regular, I do believe. Lizette Ortiz, whoβs got a lot of amazing dynamic changes for diets. We talked last week about how we can make diets better for us and make them fun. Today, our focus is on specializations and choices and an option changing of our foods to make it easy for us to see. So substitutions are the topic today of foods, specifically with the flare of Lizette Ortiz. So weβre going to take a look at that. So Lizette, tell us a bit of what youβre going to do today because we will talk about nutrition and food substitutions. After all, I know that you got a lot of knowledge and a lot of insights. So we want to present that information for people to get it and enjoy different options. So take it away. You got it. Tell us a bit of food substitution.
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[00:02:54] Lizette Ortiz: Thank you for having me again.
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[00:02:58] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Oh, absolutley and Kenna by the way. Sheβs over there on the other side. So if you want to see Kenna, there she is right there.
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[00:03:06] Lizette Ortiz: Sheβs doing amazing with controlling everything.
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[00:03:07] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Yes, weβre going to dynamic here.
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[00:03:09] Lizette Ortiz: So basically, as we talked about last time, a lot of what I like to tell my clients if they want weight loss, if they wish to live a little healthier, feel better is decide what you want to include in your diet and what you donβt. When we have a lot of weight and include too many different things, it usually doesnβt work out very well. So itβs good to know what to cut back on and how to. More importantly, todayβs talking about how still to enjoy your favorite foods, your favorite flavors. But without those added calories from extra fat, extra grains, extra carbs, simple carbs that arenβt needed, and especially, I believe that locally here in El Paso, the Mexican diet is very obviously popular. A lot of us are raised on that, you know, so to suddenly one day be like, well, no more tortillas for you. No more chilequilas, no more tacos. Itβs like, Well, thatβs my identity.
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[00:04:07] Kenna Vaughn: Yeah, itβs just not realistic.
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[00:04:10] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, itβs not realistic, and itβs not easy to keep that lifestyle. Itβs not sustainable when your culture is part of it. For example, when I was living in Japan, I tried to tell a Japanese person or a Korean person, or an Asian person in general. All right, so no more rice for you. No, itβs a staple of their diet. And itβs like with Mexican people; itβs the same. Itβs like, Oh, OK, so no more beans and no more tortillas for you is like, Well, no, thatβs notβ¦
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[00:04:39] Lizette Ortiz: Going to work out.
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[00:04:41] Lizette Ortiz: What I would like to talk about mostly today is some of my favorite substitutions that Iβve made to continue to enjoy Mexican food because I love Japanese food and Italian food. But Mexican food is my favorite.
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[00:04:54] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: But this will be with a healthy flair. So weβre going to have it a healthy flair, and weβre going to make it suitable for us, and weβre going to make sure that we make our families healthy and happy, and Iβm excited about this, this presentation today. So we got a lot of really cool pictures. So letβs get it on.
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[00:05:12] Lizette Ortiz: All right. So letβs start with our Prezi, our first one. This is one of my favorite go-toβs because it has a Mexican flavor and because itβs a one-pan meal or a one-bowl meal, one dish. I love those. Theyβre the best, especially if you donβt have the time you donβt like cooking. These are the fastest dishes you can ever make. Itβs easy. We have a few pictures here. In the first one, youβll see we have the ingredients, which for this, I use the chopped fresh chili, pork in chunks, which is usually what is used for chile verde. So normally, this would be like the substitute of chile verde where they, you know, pork and chili verde, which is green chili sauce. And itβs normally what is made with just pork and potatoes.
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[00:06:03] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Where did you learn how to do this particular plate? Tell me a bit about the history of this plate because this is good.
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[00:06:08] Lizette Ortiz: This is my thing. Yeah, I came up with it.
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[00:06:13] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Oh, this is yours.
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[00:06:15] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: This is a masterpiece.
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[00:06:18] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, this is Ortizβs dish of pork and salsa verde.
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[00:06:24] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: What does Alfonso think about this? Does he love it?
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[00:06:25] Lizette Ortiz: He loves it. He likes it. Fonzie loves it.
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[00:06:27] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Fonzie, I like the name Fonzie.
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[00:06:30] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah. If you know me or you know Fonzie in El Paso, thatβs probably my husband. Thatβs awesome. A lot of people here, and everyone knows him as Fonzie. So, yeah, baby, we are talking about you if youβre listening.
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[00:06:41] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Weβre going to get some insight into what you get fed.
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[00:06:46] Lizette Ortiz: Yes. Oh my god. Yeah, he loves it. He likes these, luckily. Heβs not like, βOh, Iβm not too fond of this, I donβt want to eat that, donβt make me this.β Heβs not like that. Heβs not picky.
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[00:07:00] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Heβs reasonable.
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[00:07:04] Lizette Ortiz: And he goes with the flow with everything, including the choices of my main menu items. So luckily, as I said, the original salsa verde stew is usually made with just pork and potatoes and salsa verde, and thatβs that you typically accompany it with tortillas. So instead of that, I added some more nutrients and more fiber and more just vegetable portions by chopping up some extra things. So instead of only having the three ingredients, meat, potato, and salsa. I also added chayote, a green squash-looking thing you see next to the red potato. Yes, that is a squash. Itβs a type of squash. It comes in spiny varieties, like that one that doesnβt have thorns. When the weatherβs harsh, the skin tends to be thick, so you might want to peel it when the weather is nice.
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[00:07:51] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Any techniques on peeling it?
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[00:07:54] Lizette Ortiz: Just like a carrot or a potato, peel it, and you donβt even have to. I donβt like the extra fibrous skin, so when I do it, sometimes I gauge it. When you cut it, youβll know if the skins are too thick. You know, if you want to skin it or not. So thatβs also a good substitution if you just want to skip the potatoes altogether. I would substitute with the chayote because it has a similar texture. Itβs nice; it stays firm, it stays in nice little squares, it keeps its shape. And so, it gives you that feeling both visually and textually.
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[00:08:32] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: You know what, when I first saw the picture, it looked like a green apple. It looked like a green apple to me initially, you know, similar color.
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[00:08:39] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, but itβs so good. Have you ever had chayote?
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[00:08:42] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: No, never.
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[00:08:43] Lizette Ortiz: In any presentation?
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[00:08:45] Kenna Vaughn: No.
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[00:08:46] Lizette Ortiz: Itβs so good.
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[00:08:47] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Does it taste like jΓcama?
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[00:08:50] Lizette Ortiz: No, itβs different. Itβs even better. Itβs juicier than jΓcama. OK, so itβs not going to have a starchy texture to it. Itβs more like a juicy texture. Itβs really good. You should try it.
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[00:09:02] Kenna Vaughn: Maybe.
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[00:09:03] Dr. Alex Jimeenez DC*: Weβre going to do a podcast on that.
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[00:09:06] Lizette Ortiz: Itβs going to be all about chayote.
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[00:09:09] Lizette Ortiz: But yeah, thatβs good. And so another thing that kind of also gives you a similar semi-starchy texture is carrots. So also cut those in chunks, sort of cut everything in about the same size. And so just with your chayote and carrots. Youβve already added so many more vegetables to the dish would initially have, right? And those are my go tos usually. And then, on top of that, I put whatever else I have, which this time I had kale. So I just cut all the hard parts like the stems and the thick veins. I cut those out, and I only use the ruffles. All the leaves chop that up and then some mushrooms because mushrooms are delicious and green onions because I had a lot of those. Otherwise, I would have used the regular white onion.
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[00:09:48] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: I know this is now. I see that the plate, as you were before it was prepped. It looks pretty dense with mushrooms. You use more than three mushrooms, right?
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[00:10:00] Lizette Ortiz: Oh, you know what? Itβs the meat. OK, but once you start cooking, oh, and then the salsa verde, you see the little thing. Yes, I make that.
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[00:10:08] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Talk to me because this is important, and thereβs a lot of people there that theyβre losing their husbands because they donβt cook. But you got to give them a special, you know, the go-to thing here. So how did you make that?
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[00:10:22] Lizette Ortiz: With that salsa? I have the recipe for that salsa in a video. If you go to my website, I would say it was perfect.
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[00:10:30] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Whatβs the website?
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[00:10:32] Lizette Ortiz: The website is a little long, but itβs easy to remember. Itβs DIY. Like, do it yourself DIY mind-body upgrade one word DIY mindbodyupgrade. And then there will be links for recipes and video recipes and things. And I have my recipe for that salsa verde, and itβs really easy. You either grill. I like grilling it. So in a pan or griddle or wherever you want, you put your green tomatoes, tomatillos, Spanish for green tomatoes. Grill those. Grill some onions, garlic. I always put garlic in mine and your choice of chili. Usually, people will use jalapenos for it. But I donβt love jalapenos. I can have them. But theyβre not my favorites. I use chili poblano instead because they have a smokier flavor, so I roast those, and then you just blend everything together. And thatβs it. And you can add water. If you want it to be lighter, you can just leave it nice and thick. Itβs up to you, and itβs really easy to do.
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[00:11:25] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Kenna, do you do this kind of stuff for your husband?
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[00:11:27] Kenna Vaughn: Not this tasty. No, Iβm picking up some tips right now.
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[00:11:33] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: What do you think heβll say if you show up and you make a plate like that?
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[00:11:36] Kenna Vaughn: Oh gosh, he would probably love it because he loves spicy food, things that we always joke around that I was raised in a house that uses salt and pepper. So thereβsβ¦
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[00:11:47] Kenna Vaughn: Not aβ¦
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[00:11:48] Kenna Vaughn: Lot of flavors.
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[00:11:49] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: No, your mom did that.
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[00:11:52] Kenna Vaughn: Maybe, some Italian seasoning every once in a while, but heβll he would probably love this, so this good.
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[00:11:59] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, try it and let me know. OK, so this is the for the salsa verde. So basically, you saute all your harder vegetables, all your starches. So your chayote, potatoes, carrots with some onions. So saute all that within no more than one teaspoon of oil, so keep the oil low.
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[00:12:17] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Is that a Wok?
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[00:12:18] Lizette Ortiz: Itβs not. Itβs just a big pan. But if you had a wok, that would be cool too. Just a big pan that you can just saute in. Thatβll work. And then you put the onion, and the meatβs first, let the meat cook a little bit, and then add your thick starches, which is the second picture youβll see there where it has potatoes and carrots, and the chayoteβs all together.
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[00:12:45] Kenna Vaughn: OK, so you want your meat brown first?
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[00:12:49] Lizette Ortiz: Yes, and then toss all the starches and the bigger chunks.
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[00:12:53] Kenna Vaughn: And does that help them not get soggy? Like keeping up with the potato texture almost?
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[00:13:01] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, by not putting them all together, it just doesnβt cook them as long because at least for this dish, itβs pork, so you do want it to cook thoroughly. You know, itβs very important that it cooks thoroughly, but also because I like the browning that it gives, you know, like the texture and the flavor of the meat, when you let it brown a little bit first, the kind of like sears that I guess, you know, like mini seared chunks in a way. And then you add the other things so that they start cooking; you cook them until theyβre soft. And then, I added the kale at the end because of its leaves, so kale and mushrooms go at the end because they cook fast. And then once it looks like the starches and potatoes and things are getting to the right texture, you add in your salsa verde and then cover it, simmer it for at least five to 10 minutes, and youβre done.
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[00:13:48] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Thatβs an amazing plate. This is good anyway. Do you prep the meat at all the night before or anything? Do you give it any sort of like seasoning or anything?
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[00:13:57] Lizette Ortiz: No, but it would be even better if you did that.
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[00:13:59] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: What do you recommend doing with it?
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[00:14:02] Lizette Ortiz: I mean, I do season. OK, so all of this, you would throw whatever seasonings to taste; I add many things. I add garlic powder on top of the actual garlic in there, but I add garlic powder. Sometimes Iβll have a seasoning salt a little bit. But when I use meat, I like using the English sauce, the Worcestershire. I really think my cuisines flavor involves that a lot and cumin. I love using cumin, garlic powder, and Worcestershire sauce are my go-to.
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[00:14:34] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: For a plate like this, for example, cumin. I say you can make a disaster. You could make the whole house smell like cumin. How much cumin would you use on a plate like this, the entire design, like a tablespoon or a teaspoon?
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[00:14:43] Lizette Ortiz: I donβt measure things, but I have it in a shaker.
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[00:14:48] Kenna Vaughn: So about two shakes, all right.
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[00:14:58] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: All right. Thatβs funny.
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[00:14:59] Lizette Ortiz: So thatβs one. Please go ahead and try it. You can use any vegetables again. It doesnβt have to be these vegetables. You can use broccoli. Iβve used broccoli before because thatβs what I had. I always have carrots, so there are always carrots in it, and you can use any other vegetables. You could have used spinach instead of kale; you can use cauliflower. You can use any like any vegetables.
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[00:15:21] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Very lean. So the artists in the kitchen. I like this.
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[00:15:25] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah.
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[00:15:26] Kenna Vaughn: How many portions do you usually get from this? Could it feed a family of four? Do you have leftovers or?
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[00:15:34] Lizette Ortiz: This is supposed to be for two people. OK, it looks like a lot, but we only eat one meal and one smaller snack meal. So we need to get most of our proteins and vegetables in one big meal. So thatβs it. This is pretty big. If youβre accompanying this with like a soup or a salad or something like that, this could be for maybe three or four people. But if this is your only meal because thereβs enough if you see how many vegetables, itβs like a carrot per person, half a potato per person, thatβs already several cups of vegetables per person. Yes. And so thatβs just one meal. So this would be for two people if thatβs your only thing, but you can also accompany other things. So yeah, thatβs about a pound of meat. We usually eat half a pound of protein each day in our meals.
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[00:16:22] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Let me ask you, particularly about choosing how much to eat and everything. Letβs say you do a leg day or versus just aerobics. Do you change it up in terms of, you know, Hey, Alfonso, you did legs today, so you get a little extra piece of meat or something, or you did aerobics, and you get no meat or something? How does that work?
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[00:16:40] Lizette Ortiz: That is so funny that you say that because yes, that is precisely what I do, and I donβt think he doesnβt know that, but yeah.
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[00:16:47] Lizette Ortiz: He does now.
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[00:16:47] Lizette Ortiz: And heβs listening. He knows now. But yeah, I do consider how much I exercise, how much he exercises, what we do if we remember to take our protein after we workout. What are we going to eat later? What snacks do we have for later? If itβs something thatβs high in protein or not, you know, like Iβll take a lot of those things into account. So yeah, sometimes itβs like if I worked out, but heβs slacking, then itβs like, weβre going to get like the same, or Iβm going to get a little more. But no, heβs a guy. Heβs bigger, so he needs more. So itβll probably be more even if we both worked out, and he usually gets a little more protein orβ¦
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[00:17:25] Lizette Ortiz: More,
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[00:17:26] Lizette Ortiz: Whatever carbs, like a potato in this case or something, because his body functions better with carbs, mine functions better with fats. OK, Iβll let him have more.
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[00:17:35] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: You know, thatβs so cool because I think that the family knows their spouse, and he knows what does. Do you know what is good? And in this situation, itβs essential to pick out the amplitude of the proteins and the amplitude of the carbohydrates versus the fibers. So this is very good, important. I mean, I think itβs one of those fundamental questions that you know how to gauge as you get advanced into nutrition. And I think the world is now saying that we donβt have to eat meat every day or high proteins, specifically on the days that we work out hard, but not on the days we donβt. So itβs kind of cool. So we got other plates coming out; what other plates we got?
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[00:18:11] Lizette Ortiz: So now itβs chilaquiles.
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[00:18:13] Kenna Vaughn: Iβm going to ask you one question first. Everyone thinks that eating healthy is hard and itβs really expensive. This looks very budget-friendly. Is it budget-friendly where one, you purchase all these ingredients?
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[00:18:26] Lizette Ortiz: Itβs very budget-friendly. We talked about this last week, and Dr. Jimenez proposes to save money like if you just saved money by doing it right, like I canβt spend any more money on this. So no snacks, thereβs no money for snacks. And truly, I spend so much less money when I eat clean than when I eat other crap. You know, like when I fill up like rice is cheaper. But whereβs my nutrition? You know, right? And thatβs bland. Youβre still going to want something else, so youβre going to end up eating junk anyway. And junk is pretty expensive. Yeah, this is cheap. Like my husband and I, itβs just the two of us. But we eat like this, or youβll see other pictures. We do eat healthy snacks that we buy. We spend maybe $150 every two weeks, but itβs all just healthy stuff.
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[00:19:20] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Did you hear that, Trudy? 150 bucks? Did you hear that 150 dollars every two weeks? Now we can do that. Another thing I noticed about this is that you cut these, these vegetables up, and there was a lot of fiber, obviously in this thing. Weβre not just feeding, you know, Alfonzo and his muscles; weβre feeding his bacteria. And what I love about this thing is that you can almost see the probiotics having a Hallelujah song going on. You can hear the thumps, and theyβre happy, all the fibers coming in, and theyβre going to enjoy this. You mentioned a couple of things like rice versus high-fiber foods like this. Rice is absorbed in the first five feet of the intestine. Once it leaves, it ends up injecting into your body so quickly. No food for the bacteria. So this is where we look at it, and we say this is a food thatβs not only good for your body, but itβs suitable for your bugs, and your bugs keep your whole hormonal system together.
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[00:20:14] Lizette Ortiz: Everything working right?
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[00:20:15] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: And you know what? You see, I hate to say, but we talk about this because weβre older. And did you poop in the morning, and did you feel good? Did you know it makes a difference, right? So if we do, we make it happen. Letβs go to the next plate and not talk about this kind of thing.
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[00:20:29] Lizette Ortiz: OK, letβs go back to yummy things. So another delicious Mexican dish that I love, especially for breakfast. I recently went to Guanajuato with my mom and my aunt and my cousin, and I swear every morning I had chilaquiles for breakfast because every hotel had them, and I love them, and theyβre so good. However, the bad thing about chilaquiles is that you usually fry the tortillas used for them. And so that already sabotages your entire plan for the whole diet. Yeah, for the entire day. Exactly. And then the eggs are usually fried eggs, too, you know? But thereβs no reason for that to be the case. You can still enjoy your chilaquiles. These are honestly very small changes that I make is instead of frying the tortillas, I cut them up and bake them, I put them in the oven at about 350 for about 15 minutes. But thatβs here in El Paso with our altitude and our everything. So you check on them. Yeah, so theyβre crispy and golden. I wouldnβt recommend putting them at any higher temperature than 350 because that would probably just be too much. It would burn. And then the salsa is again my salsa that I make.
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[00:21:43] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Thatβs the same salsa?
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[00:21:45] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, thatβs the same salsa I make.
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[00:21:46] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Make sure we put a link to that salsa.
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[00:21:47] Lizette Ortiz: So yeah, Iβll go on a link in there. But yeah, thatβs my salsa that I make all the time; I buy the green tomatoes every time I go to the grocery store, I buy my green tomatoes, and thereβs always like a batch of salsa at home. And then what I did for this is I sauteed some onions, and actually, first, I just baked the chips and then threw them in the pan. And then the salsa, as I mentioned, already has garlic, and it has onion, and it has the chile. And so thatβs already a lot of flavors. So you donβt need to add oil; you donβt need to add any garlic, onions, anything. Thatβs it. And so just pour it on top of the chips and kind of smooth around until they start softening a little bit. Once it starts simmering, you leave it there, cover it and make sure itβs nice and hot. And then I just crack the eggs on top of that, as you can see there, and then covered it. Oh, spread just some salt and pepper on top, and green onions cover it for a little longer until the eggs are cooked to your liking.
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[00:22:45] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Are those six or seven eggs?
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[00:22:47] Lizette Ortiz: Six eggs.
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[00:22:48] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Six eggs, OK?
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[00:22:49] Lizette Ortiz: Yes, theyβre a little uneven. I know there should be the seventh one in the middle right now.
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[00:22:53] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: No, thatβs good.
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[00:22:54] Lizette Ortiz: But I guess Fonzie didnβt work out that day, so he didnβt deserve the fourth egg.
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[00:22:58] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: He gets half a huevo. Thatβs funny.
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[00:23:04] Lizette Ortiz: We got three that day; actually, he does prefer four eggs. But he must have selected the steak because I only gave us three eggs each. So we both liked it, I guess. And so thatβs it. And you just covered once the eggs are nice and cooked, how you want them. I scoop it out with either a spoon or a spatula or however you want. Normally, the sauce is nice and thick. If itβs too soupy, then use a spoon. But I like it either way and just serve it. And then you see in the final picture a side of salad, of course, right? And chilaquiles are the type of thing that you can have for breakfast. Or you can have breakfast for lunch, breakfast for dinner type meal. So I really like them because of that.
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[00:23:45] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: I like that breakfast for dinner; that is so cool because sometimes I want to have breakfast for dinner. That is so cool. Wow, thatβs amazing.
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[00:23:53] Lizette Ortiz: So that oneβs easy. That was really easy. Itβs just the salsa. And I mean, if you donβt want to make the salsa, you can just buy it like they sell salsa verde at the store. Salsas are excellent like we talked about last time, even as dressing substitutes because they donβt have any oils; salsas are made by roasting or boiling or steaming some vegetables and blending them together.
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[00:24:17] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Say that again, theyβre made by how?
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[00:24:19] Lizette Ortiz: Either roasting vegetables or boiling, or I sometimes steam them. But for the most part, itβs boiled or grilled vegetables and just blended. Thatβs basically what an authentic good salsa should be. There shouldnβt be any oil in it, any grease, anything. So salsas are super safe to just go to the store, buy yourself a big salsa verde and bake your chips and then just do the same thing. You donβt have to make your own salsa. You can always just look for something. Look at the ingredients. You know, it should only be vegetables, maybe some salt, or a couple of not so terrible preservatives, like if they need to be in there. But other than that, itβs a really simple meal that the other thing that you will notice, and Iβm sure some people are like, Hey, Donde estas la queso? So whereβs the cheese, right? Itβs like, Yeah, well, thatβs another thing weβre modifying here: weβre not putting cheese, so weβre cutting back on that fat. But if you want the cheese because itβs part of it and you must have it, thereβs nothing wrong with grating, you know, a little bit an ounce of cheese and spreading it all over an ounce of cheese divided by two people. Thatβd be nothing. Nothing, even one ounce per person. Itβs like maybe a hundred and something calories. Itβs good fats, you know, but itβs a little youβre not going to dump half a pound of mozzarella on top of these eggs. Thereβs no reason for it. So thatβs my second go-to favorite item that I like to make.
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[00:25:39] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Letβs go to the next one here.
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[00:25:41] Lizette Ortiz: OK, so after this, I wanted to mention some other dishes that Iβve enjoyed making that might be enjoyable for some of our listeners. How about we talk about the popsicles last time I made these delicious popsicles?
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[00:25:57] Kenna Vaughn: No, itβs getting really hot out. So that would be an excellent thing.
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[00:26:01] Lizette Ortiz: I am obsessed with popsicles right now, you guys. I have ten pineapple popsicles in the freezer, and I made ten cucumber chile. So these are actually the inner popsicles folder.
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[00:26:18] Kenna Vaughn: And you can see it.
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[00:26:20] Lizette Ortiz: OK, so basically in all of my local, my paisanos here will know what Iβm talking about is in Mexico, we have paletas, you know, like popsicles. We have popsicles everywhere in the world. But our Mexican paletas usually have some unique flavors. And so, one of my favorites is the cucumber and chile-lime. So pepino con chile popsicles. And I remember when I was growing up in Mexico, I remember that was my go-to. It was my favorite. Theyβre delicious. Itβs cucumber and lime and a lot of sugar, and so that kind of ruins the whole thing. So itβs like, oh, popsicles are good, but they have a lot of sugar.
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[00:26:58] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: So what do you use instead of sugar?
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[00:26:59] Lizette Ortiz: Well, I use the Monk fruit sweetener instead of sugar, which we were also talking about. And so one thing that Iβm doing this summer is making my own cucumber and chile-lime popsicles easy. One cucumber, two limes, Munford sweetener, chile powder. Blend it, pour it into the popsicle mold, put the stick in, and then enjoy it. And itβs really easy. Theyβre really easy to make, and theyβre really quick. If you want to add more flavor, you could use tajin powder. I donβt know if youβve seen it. And you can add some tajin powder, and it has real sugar in it. But itβs very, very little. So I mean, you wouldnβt add more than a tablespoon for an entire batch of popsicles.
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[00:27:49] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Lizette, you mentioned something about the Monkfruit? So tell us a bit about monk fruit and your experiences with monk fruit sugar. What is that about?
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[00:27:57] Lizette Ortiz: Itβs great. So itβs made from monk fruit. OK, but so far, itβs a sweetener that they extract from this fruit, and itβs been used as a sweetener for apparently thousands of years by people, and where itβs from, I forget where but I want to say itβs from Asia somewhere.
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[00:28:22] Kenna Vaughn: So for these popsicles, how long do you freeze them for?
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[00:28:26] Lizette Ortiz: Thatβs a good question. Do you know why? Because when I first made some popsicles, I gave them two hours, and I tried to pull them out, and the stick came up. So I was like, Well, I guess that wasnβt enough. But those werenβt the cucumber ones. OK, so those were creamier. Creamier stuff takes longer with the water ones. I would say four hours just to be safe. Just to be safe, I would say at least freeze them for four hours. OK. So it is just what I would say. Besides that, that oneβs really good. The cucumber ones. And then, oh, monk fruit sweetener. Yes, I like it a lot because itβs sweeter than sugar. Not by a lot. I want to use it even like whatever one tablespoon of sugar. Iβll substitute for one tablespoon of monk fruit sweetener, but things usually end up being a little extra sweet. So maybe I would go like half or almost one to one, but not quite. But it doesnβt have a bitter aftertaste. It has a lovely, sweet, natural taste to it; honestly, I think. And yeah, itβs just the lack of aftertaste that makes a big difference.
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[00:29:35] Kenna Vaughn: And where do you buy it?
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[00:29:37] Lizette Ortiz: I get mine at Sprouts, but Iβm sure other health food stores have it. Thereβs also; actually, Sprouts has it by the pound, where you can like, grab a bunch of it and buy a pound of it at a time, which is what I did last time. But thereβs also a brand called La Canto, and they make little packets, and they make different types like white sugar or brown sugar flavor. Or, I mean, they donβt flavor it. Itβs just the way that they extract. It is a little different, so it has a little more caramel flavor or not. So that works out pretty well. I especially like just the plain regular white one because itβs the most similar to sugar. I like sweets.
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[00:30:19] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Let me ask you this is when you work with your clients, how is it that when weβre looking at these particular substitutions, how do you adapt to an individual and assist in creating a diet thatβs right for them? Like you can say, do you look at them and say, you know, this is kind of an apple-shaped body, a slender body? And how do you tailor that?
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[00:30:44] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, thatβs an excellent question. And you can go by body type. A lot of the time, because usually that kind of lets you know what body type you have and somewhat foods work better for them. What kind of exercises, how much activity and everything but over our lives, we can change our bodies. So, for example, someone who is generally like tall skinny type. Right? If they donβt take care of themselves, they can change their body over the years to become a more rounded body type. And so now theyβre going to have to do things that are naturally rounded body type will have to do to lose weight or get back into their skinny all the time shape. However, people who usually struggle to gain weight will do better with carbs. At least thatβs something that has been, you know, noticed because they burn a lot. They also have a hard time putting on muscle because they just burn through all this so fast that it is just like they need the carbs for fuel. But someone, for example, like Iβm in OK shape right now. Still, I tend to gain weight quickly, and so if I were to eat tortillas every day, like if I were to eat every day tortillas and rice and beans and like steak, like regular Mexican meals every day and like huevos for breakfast and then tortillas and other foods for lunch. And then, some other thing for dinner, I couldnβt like my body does not respond well to carbs. So, for example, a person, in that case, I would tell them, All right, well, for your body type, I will have to get rid of these carbs, have to get rid of grains, and have to get rid of tortillas, reduce them. At least if we donβt get rid of them completely, at least reduce them. If youβre going to do tacos, do just two tortillas instead of four. Eat the rest with either lettuce wraps or just by itself. You know, like Iβve eaten my fair share of open-faced burritos. You know, like, Iβve gotten a burrito, you know, itβs like, All right, thank you and open it and eat the insides with a fork and youβre eating the delicious stuff inside and then the pieces of bread just kind of extra. So, yeah, I do base it on that. And most importantly, though, I ask them, Do you tend to gain weight quickly? Do you like these foods? Do you struggle with this? And so that will also help me make side. Yeah. Right? What to suggest.
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[00:33:11] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: So let me ask you when we look at your portfolio of diets and how do you help your clients specifically retune their diets? And what I mean by that is, you know, your husband, for example, Fonzie, and you know that if he eats a particular food, he packs it on, you know, yourself. How do you work engage? How do you tell the person what to look for in terms of the things that make them swollen and get kind of chunky? And how do you help them adapt? You mentioned something about the use of a diary. And you said something like that. Tell me, how do you do that?
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[00:33:52] Lizette Ortiz: The first thing I like to start with is a semi-elimination diet. I know where itβs like; all right, weβre beginning to jumpstart. Youβre going to get rid of all of these foods, and we go, really, really strict. And itβs like none of these, not even any potatoes, not even anything that could irritate you. Like any nightshade, family foods like tomatoes, eggplants, potatoes, all those things. No grains. I have them like that for at least a week and then slowly add one food at a time. OK, see how they feel. And then we can gauge what is causing inflammation, whatβs causing bloating, whatβs causing headaches, even sometimes?
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[00:34:33] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: What do they report to you in terms of inflammation that things arenβt sitting right? Letβs say they eat a portion of a particular food, and it just keeps on whether itβs milk or certain byproducts, dairy byproducts. What can we help them to zone in on if it works or not in terms of an elimination diet?
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[00:34:49] Lizette Ortiz: It depends on what they feel, I guess. But what I mostly hear is people are used to inflammation.
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[00:35:05] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Tell me about that. What do you mean by inflammation? And Kenna, tell me what the patients tell us when they say, Iβm bloated? I feel puffy, too. I think, you know, inflammation. What is it that they should look for that pips them off? That inflammation is, or do they eat the wrong thing?
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[00:35:23] Lizette Ortiz: Thatβs the thing is, like so many people are used to inflammation. Iβm sure you understand what Iβm saying because many people donβt even realize that theyβre bloated until theyβre at the end of this first week. And theyβre like, my stomach feels so much smaller. This feels so much better. I didnβt realize, but I donβt feel this discomfort. People donβt even realize that they have discomfort until it goes away, right? And so, something that I would say pay attention to. I would do it once a month, once a year, at least every six months. I would like to do a detox. So like take at least three or four days at least of super clean eating, no grains, no anything thatβll irritate you, and then slowly add foods, OK, and see how you feel. Just listening to your body is so important, like you need to; as you said, I know my body and my husbandβs body. And I canβt see every clientβs body, but I mean, there are patterns that you can notice, but in yourself, just kind of know what feels right, what feels wrong. If you feel like when you stopped eating something, your stomach is smaller, you donβt feel nauseous or bloated or pain or discomfort, then now you know that you probably shouldnβt be eating that.
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[00:36:34] Kenna Vaughn: Iβve said before that many people associate inflammation with just joint pain or a physical thing they can see. They donβt think about their intestines and how theyβre eating, and what it contributes to their headaches. Or, like you said, your nausea or your bloating. You donβt realize that even using the restroom could be so easy and simple because the foods youβre eating are really causing inflammation in there and just wreaking havoc on all the insides. After all, we canβt see it. So definitely detoxing is excellent to do. Like you said, once every six months, just give your body that clean reset. So, you know, the food sensitivities you have can change. So doing it every six months or a year will help you get better in tune with your body, which is a great thing. You should know your body and help you so much, and itβll help you with the foods you can have. And even with the substitutions, itβs just a great thing to do. Do you have clients who say, no, Iβm not going to detox, or they donβt understand its purpose, or how do you get around things with your clients that maybe might be a little tricky? Or have you had not had to come in contact with that?
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[00:37:54] Lizette Ortiz: No, I havenβt so far. Not necessarily because most of my clients have had at least; maybe Iβve just gotten lucky. Theyβre very like; theyβre ready. Letβs yeah, whatever it is, letβs do it. Most people are surprised. You know what? Now that you mention it, Iβm thinking about it. And most people donβt eat enough, like, especially with women. Yes, we tend to think, Oh, well, the less I eat, the more to lose weight, right? And itβs like, Well, no, because now youβre starving yourself. So currently, youβre storing everything. And so, no, when I tell people itβs like, youβre not eating enough, you need to add this many more vegetables, this many portions of meat they want know like, what am I going to eat all this food?
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[00:38:36] Kenna Vaughn: I bet that could be hard for them to like almost a mental thing. They automatically think that if I eat more, Iβll gain weight. But itβs not. My mom. Sorry, mom, she was one of those people I know; she thought, you know, eating less means fewer calories, so itβs better for you. And she was eating saltine crackers with butter on them. Theyβre so great. They were delicious until my uncle came over and was like, Oh, youβre just eating crackers. And my mom said, Oh, Iβm trying to lose weight and eat less. And he was like, Youβre just eating flour. You know, literally filling your body.
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[00:39:19] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: The gluten people are just exploding right there. So yeah, when we look at this area here, we talked about what you mentioned a little earlier about having popsicles. And what weβre looking at the popsicles right now, we can see it on one of the monitors there. Is that Alfonso?
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[00:39:36] Lizette Ortiz: Thatβs Fonzie, yes.
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[00:39:36] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Heβs enjoying that. What type of popsicle is it? How did you make those?
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[00:39:41] Lizette Ortiz: So thatβs the cucumber and chile popsicles I made. So you can see that there are chunks of cucumber. So when I blended, I didnβt use a blender. I used a food processor instead. OK, just press it a couple of times so that there are still chunks of cucumber. Because the great thing about the Mexican popsicles, the traditional way they make them is theyβre usually chunks of fruit or whatever the popsicle is. So I love that. And so I made sure to keep some pieces of cucumber in there.
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[00:40:10] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: And can you go through and teach us how did you make this? I mean, tell us what it is or what that is, OK? Thereβs another picture here.
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[00:40:16] Lizette Ortiz: Can you go to the next one?
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[00:40:17] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: I think Iβm going to go to the next one. I got to see how it happens there. Yeah, there you go.
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[00:40:22] Lizette Ortiz: Yes! Those are the ingredients. So you have one cucumber, two limes. I put one tablespoon of tajin in the back of the container with a red lid is just chili powder, just regular Mexican chili powder. And then that la canto monk fruit sweetener golden is the one thatβs supposed to be kind of like brown sugar.
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[00:40:40] Kenna Vaughn: OK, so you like the golden better when making popsicles?
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[00:40:42] Lizette Ortiz: I like the regular one, but I happen to have that. But yeah, thatβs one variety they have; any Monk fruit sweetener will work for that. Just no sugar. And so if you can see there like that whole cucumber alone has, what, 35 calories?
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[00:41:00] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Yeah, maybe.
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[00:41:02] Lizette Ortiz: So if you put all of that and divided it up between the ten popsicles, that means each one of those delicious, decadent, sweet, and amazing popsiclesβ¦
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[00:41:11] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Thatβs what Iβm talking about.
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[00:41:13] Lizette Ortiz: Those calories are like nothing. I can eat all of these and still be OK. Yeah. Well, I donβt know about the chile and the lime, though, but I donβt think thatβs a good idea to eat ten all at once.
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[00:41:25] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: We are about compromise here.
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[00:41:28] Kenna Vaughn: Yeah.
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[00:41:30] Lizette Ortiz: So if you like it like, I love those popsicles, but when theyβre loaded with sugar, itβs just not a viable snack for me in the summer. But if Iβm making them myself and theyβre lean, and theyβre adding water and vegetables to my diet and vitamin C from those limes, then why the heck not? Yeah, like, so make your own popsicles, people.
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[00:41:51] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Yeah. So tell us a bit about what types of popsicles that you do?
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[00:41:58] Lizette Ortiz: OK, so I just made some. Theyβre not super low sugar because I took the lazy route for several reasons that Iβll explain, but I made some pineapple popsicles. I made them with; I made them lazy because I bought the pineapple concentrate, OK, and I like added water. So it has sugar. Itβs like the regular fruit juice, but itβs pasteurized because, as Kenna said, your food sensitivities change throughout life, and I have become sensitive to pineapple. So itβs a bummer, but you can still eat it if itβs cooked because it destroys the enzymes, right, causing problems, and so if itβs pasteurized, itβs cooked right. So the juices, any juices or canned pineapples and things are OK. So I bought that, and I didnβt want to deal with it, and I used that for my popsicles. But if you have natural pineapple chunks blended with some water, fill up your little popsicle containers; you got your paleta. Thatβs right, and there is that.
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[00:43:05] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: I donβt want to take over this whole thing, but I bumped into your page and found many different cool things.
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[00:43:11] Lizette Ortiz: You know what, how about you pick a picture?
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[00:43:13] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: You know what I did, and what I found is that I have a favorite. Iβll show it to you, OK? And Iβm surprised because I think everybody in the world has this as one of their specialties. Like, you know, to me, there isnβt a week that should not have a taco night. So, yeah, take a look at that. And when you see that on there, you can see that looks good. Tell me about this because thatβs got a lot of cruciferous vegetables on there. And to me, tell us.
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[00:43:45] Lizette Ortiz: Yes, thereβs always a lot going on in my salads. There are alwaysβ¦
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[00:43:50] Lizette Ortiz: At leastβ¦
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[00:43:51] Lizette Ortiz: Seven ingredients in my salad. OK, so this one has, you know, your basic lettuce. I donβt use the iceberg because it doesnβt have a lot of nutritional value. So I usually stick to something greener, either Greenleaf or a red leaf, which is whatβs on there. Also, as Dr. Jimenez noted, broccoli, cruciferous vegetables. We got some broccoli in there. I cut it small. Someone once told me that it was hardcore to eat broccoli raw. So I guess if you donβt like it raw, steam it before you throw it in there.
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[00:44:23] Kenna Vaughn: I think itβs perfectly fine.
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[00:44:24] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: You know what? I donβt look at it just for me. I look it for my bugs. I got to make my bugs happy. My bugs have to be fed. They know they donβt want meat. They want some crunchy stuff, and they want to break it down. Yeah.
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[00:44:34] Lizette Ortiz: So there are mushrooms, I think. Yes, tomatoes. And then basically the vegetables are vegetables, and I toss them with a little bit of lime and salt to give them flavor. And then the meat is just lean. I think it was like ninety-ten or ninety-five ten lean beef. You can use eighty-five and then drain the extra fat if you want. And then basically just the meat has onions, garlic, the celery and then your beef. Red bell peppers, celery will give your taco salad all the flavor in the world.
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[00:45:10] Kenna Vaughn: I would have never thought to put that in other stuff. Yeah, thatβs good. Yeah, now I can see. Exactly.
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[00:45:19] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Yeah, Iβve never thought of celery in a taco. I mean, but you know, celery makes a big difference.
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[00:45:24] Lizette Ortiz: Exactly, and thatβs what gives food flavor. This is why eating healthy doesnβt have to be boring. You guys like this are super lean. Itβs super healthy. But itβs very flavorful because that meat has garlic. It has onion. It has celery; it has cilantro. It has cumin, salt, and pepper. It has many things in it like, why would you even need a dressing on that? Yeah, donβt you already have that?
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[00:45:48] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: We look at this plate over here. Whatβs this one about? This is all that looks like Oriental. Is that oriental?
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[00:45:53] Lizette Ortiz: Itβs not. There is an oriental dish in there.
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[00:45:56] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: What is this? Tell me a bit of this plate because that looks good.
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[00:46:01] Lizette Ortiz: Oh, I know what it is. This is a vegan day meal.
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[00:46:08] Kenna Vaughn: OK, so first, can you tell us more about your schedule with eating when you say Vegan Day? Just explain that a little bit.
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[00:46:17] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, and taco, right?
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[00:46:18] Kenna Vaughn: Yeah. So go ahead and explain that substitutions.
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[00:46:22] Lizette Ortiz: So variety is the spice of life. As we all know, and so good diet is a varied diet, although you will notice a lot of ingredients repeat in my diet, at the same time, I have a lot of different ingredients all the time. That said, I like to rotate what I eat, depending on what Iβve done. Like we were talking about if we didnβt work out or anything like, Oh, you know, and we donβt need to eat our steak today, right? Or weβve been eating a lot of fish and chicken and things. So itβs like, OK, vegan date. We always have one vegan day a week. Usually, yeah, at least a vegetarian day where we will eat some, maybe some products, like maybe eggs like Volvo Lacto vegetarian, but usually we do a meatless day at least once or twice a week. We go meatless completely just for variety and for a little bacteria, you know, like our tiny microbes, they love the veggies, the fiber, and stuff like that. So I do. We do chicken, fish, pork, beef and vegan or vegetarian and a variety. Just skip it every day.
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[00:47:31] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: When we look at this plate, we hereβs another substitution that you have here, and thatβs a unique one. Whatβs this one about? Yeah, that looks like a dessert.
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[00:47:39] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, it does look like a dessert, and it tastes like a dessert, but it is what I suggest to my clients who are used to eating, for example, oatmeal every morning. OK. And when weβre trying to get rid of those grains, at least for the first portion of their program, I lived on this every morning for years. I get bored quickly with food, OK? And Iβm not one to eat the same thing every day, but I can eat this every day and not get tired of it. Itβs Greek yogurt with your choice of fruit, really, but strawberries are always good, any sort of berries and then some crushed almonds. And I put a little bit of honey, just raw honey less than a tablespoon.
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[00:48:21] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: I favored the agave. I was kind. I was looking at it like I was like, the use a little agave on there.
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[00:48:26] Lizette Ortiz: I do honey.
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[00:48:28] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Oh, itβs OK.
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[00:48:30] Kenna Vaughn: Well, even just the crushed almonds is great because so many people go for the granola that you can get, and itβs full of sugar, and they donβt realize that. So does even by making your granola or by just using, like you said, crushed almonds is so much better for you.
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[00:48:48] Lizette Ortiz: Thatβs how I started to feel. Exactly. Thatβs what I started because I used to do fruit and yogurt with granola until I found that granola is not healthy, you guys. Itβs not healthy, but Iβm eating it. Oh, I didnβt know that it was loaded with sugar and things. Oh, can you show the wings?
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[00:49:03] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Oh yes.
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[00:49:05] Lizette Ortiz: Ooh.
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[00:49:05] Kenna Vaughn: Oh yeah, we can talk about that.
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[00:49:06] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: You know what? That looks so different that I want to know what thatβs about.
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[00:49:11] Lizette Ortiz: Yes. OK, so this is Taco Tuesday. So again, tacos usually a lot of times, they fried the tortilla. I warm them up on the fire. The inside is fish, so theyβre fish tacos. A lot of places. I donβt know if itβs just California or they do it here. I had never seen it until I went to California, but they fried the breaded and fried the fish before putting it in the tortilla, for whatever reason, which donβt do that. OK, donβt do that. But so what I do instead is I just again celery, onion, garlic, OK, in a pan with just a touch of oil, if you need it. If you have a nonstick pan, you wonβt even need it, and then throw the fish in there until it breaks up. Itβs nice and cooked. Has a flavor. You put your seasonings in, then thatβs it. You serve it with your warmed-up fire tortillas, not fried tortillas. Thereβs hardly any oil in there. Thereβs no fat in there. And then the cactus on the side. This one is warm. So this oneβs also sautΓ©ed the onions and then your cactus until they get that pretty color like a nice, bright green. And then after that, you can add the cilantro and the tomatoes since they cook a little faster. And thatβs it. You just cook them until theyβre nice and bright, and they have a good texture that you like, which could be anything you could eat them raw if you want it or, you know, if you want them al dente or nice and soft, you can do that, too. So there you do have carbs, but itβs only the four tortillas. If we talk about calories, itβs only 200, but corn is a whole grain. So if this is your meal for the day and thereβs no reason why this is not healthy for you.
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[00:50:56] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: You know, as I was looking through your diets, I was trying to think of those plates youβve shared with us; theyβre very nice. What do you do in like lifestyles, like how youβve prepared the food? What do you do in terms of presentation, and how do you set it up for dinner so that you can relax and enjoy it? Because thatβs part of also the experience of eating, because not only is eating, weβre running, but what you do is prepare a place to eat, obviously at the dining room. But how do you set up the environment for that? Because we got some more plates here. But I want to also talk about like when you sit down because that looks like I would have eaten that plate way before it hit the table. Itβs just like I would have just done it. So how do you kind of control yourself to make sure that you have the experience?
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[00:51:47] Lizette Ortiz: The best recommendation for eating, like youβre saying, is being mindful of what youβre eating and like sitting next to or in front of your family, your person and talking and observing your food and chewing carefully. Iβm going to be ultimately 100 percent honest with you guys. We always watch something when weβre eating, so Iβm always watching T.V. I mean, itβs on the T.V., but who watches T.V. and everything is streaming. But together, yes, either anime or some T.V. show that weβre following or something. And so we always sit down. We set our little spot, play our show, and eat. And itβs just, I mean, itβs a ritual.
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[00:52:26] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Itβs cool; itβs a cool ritual. I see another plate here that is just so amazing. I donβt even know what it is, but itβs got a lot going on.
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[00:52:34] Lizette Ortiz: OK, so this one was my response to a breakfast dish with no bread. Because when you think breakfast, you think eggs and toast and bacon, eggs and bacon, there has to be toast, eggs, and bacon. There has to be something else. So if you see here, there are eggs, and well, there are eggs under the bacon. And then there is the bacon which was grilled, cooked, and then patted to take the excess oil off, chopped up. But that is served on top of sauteed vegetables, and the vegetables are a mix of, I think, that oneβs just cabbage and squash, the Mexican squash, and a little bit of celery. I always had that for flavor. And there are; I believe this one had a few potatoes. Yeah, I see little bits of potato in there. You can always skip the potatoes again if youβre limiting your starches or if you just donβt do well with potatoes, you can replace them with more veggies. Iβve also made this with broccoli instead of sweet potatoes. Oh, and the regular potatoes.
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[00:53:34] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Thatβs the magical stuff.
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[00:53:35] Lizette Ortiz: Yeah, so that you can make this exact dish. But instead of all the vegetables there at the bottom, I would slice to sweet potatoes flat and put them on top of that.
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[00:53:44] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: What is it called? We need a name for it.
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[00:53:48] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Maybe next time,
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[00:53:50] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Something Ortiz, I donβt know, but itβs good.
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[00:53:53] Lizette Ortiz: Itβs probably eggs and bacon.
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[00:53:54] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: OK, there you go.
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[00:53:55] Lizette Ortiz: Healthy eggs and bacon.
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[00:53:56] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: That looks amazing. I mean, I love the way that looks. Weβre going to go over one more here. Letβs see. We got here. Letβs see what the computer gives us.
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[00:54:07] Lizette Ortiz: This is a good one. All right. So I love pizza because who doesnβt love pizza? Itβs delicious. Oh good, Iβm glad this came up because we talked about it earlier. So another food that I was raised on as a kid was homemade pizza. My mom used to make pizza like my momβs familyβs originally from Italy. So we have a family pizza dough recipe. And so she used to make it. It was freakin delicious. But then when I found out about nutrition, itβs like, Oh, this is just flour and lard like literal lard. Because of the area of Italy that my familyβs from, they use lard instead of olive oil. What part is that from? Itβs the south part.
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[00:54:49] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Some Italian people are really upset right now.
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[00:54:52] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: We need some city too. I know the rock, the boot, the heel, which part is it?
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[00:55:00] Lizette Ortiz: Itβs between north and south. I worked in an Italian restaurant for a while in L.A., and thatβs the only reason I know because talking to one of these Italian ladies, we were talking about our familyβs pizza recipes. And sheβs like, Oh, your family uses lard. They must be from the south of Italy, actually no, the Northern part of Italy because the south uses olive oil and the north uses lard like, Oh, I didnβt know that. So now I know. But anyway, so I love pizza. But flour is terrible, especially the white flour you use to make pizza. And so I make, you know, like pizza toast. Thatβs another quick way of making pizza. But again, toast is usually white bread. Terrible process. So instead, I use eggplant. You can make an eggplant pizza. I know Iβm a genius.
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[00:55:48] Lizette Ortiz: There are pizza recipes.
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[00:55:49] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Lizette Ortiz, the genius. So weβre going to make sure we can index that. Lizette Ortizβ¦
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[00:55:55] Kenna Vaughn: The genius
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[00:55:56] Lizette Ortiz: Like Wylie Coyoteβ¦
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[00:55:59] Lizette Ortiz: And all that.
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[00:56:01] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: We need it. We need a cartoon now. The genius, the cooking genius.
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[00:56:07] Lizette Ortiz: So you can make a pizza and Kenna and I, weβre talking about it before, and you can get your eggplant and make it into a crust and bake it. And then itβs too long. I donβt want to spend that much time, so I just cut my eggplants in slices and grill them, you know, either on a big pan or a griddle. And then, while thatβs happening, I make my pizza sauce, which I honestly make with canned tomato sauce. I get something that doesnβt have a lot of additives in it. Something is just tomato and salt. And then, I make my sauce add oregano to add basil. Garlic, of course. And then, once the eggplants are ready, theyβre grilled on both sides. I put the sauce, whatever toppings, cheese, cover them or how or maybe bake them for five minutes or whatever you need to do just to melt the cheese a little bit. Again, if you look at this picture, these are Hawaiian, but I donβt do ham for Hawaiian. I do bacon in for a Hawaiian. So I got some nitrate-free, thick-cut bacon, mostly meat in less fat, right? And then some pineapples. Since theyβre cooked, I can eat them, so I have them up. Put that on top and then grill them and you these. We were able to eat by hand because I baked them a little longer, so they dried out. But sometimes, you might have to eat them with a fork, but it still tastes like pizza, and itβs amazing. And then all you would have to do because I mean, the eggplant is a vegetable, so you already have a lot of vegetables there, but you can also just put a little salad on the side, which is always an excellent addition to anything.
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[00:57:37] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Wow, Lizette, I would like to tell you that we have learned a whole lot today regarding your specific meals. Let me ask you in terms of you creating these ultimate designs. When you did all this, you mentioned the nutritional components. Before I go into that, I want to ask you precisely when you said something about nitrates. What did you mean by that in the nitrates? Avoid the meats with nitrates.
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[00:58:03] Lizette Ortiz: OK, technically, they still have nitrates. Even when they say theyβre nitrate-free, they just donβt use the same nitrates. So basically added to foods to cure them. So just, you know, to keep them fresh, especially hams, cold cuts, deli meats, they usually have to add these minerals. And because nitrates are like the minerals added in there, itβs too much sodium. So especially for people with like heart conditions, they need to stay away from nitrates. Yes. So especially for them, I like to stay away just because itβs extra stuff you donβt need.
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[00:58:47] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: You look at the ingredients that youβll be able to see.
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[00:58:50] Lizette Ortiz: You can see that many packages will say nitrate-free, no nitrates. OK, so just look for that. And if you read the ingredients, theyβll say nitrogen noted it. So if it doesnβt say that youβre good, you usually can just cure meats with salt and vinegar. So you donβt need all that other stuff.
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[00:59:05] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Well, is that we have gone through a whole lot of things today, and one of the things that weβve noticed today is that in the process of teaching us these nutritional dynamics, first of all, I want to thank you, OK, because this is the way like we only have like four plates and I know people are watching. I can see the number of people watching and the comments. They love the food. So one of the things is is that we want you to come back in and share with us some more stuff and different topics. So I look forward to it. Todayβs been a really exciting thing for us. I know Kenna has got some ideas for her husband.
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[00:59:42] Kenna Vaughn: He will love them.
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[00:59:43] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Yeah, I got to tell you something on the side note, you know, my mom, sheβs an older Colombian lady, and sheβll look as square at the young ladies of today and say, You know what? You want to keep your man happy. You better learn some skills, and you may be all educated.
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[01:00:00] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Your lawyer, you know, is career-oriented, but you need to have some skills and right because Iβve got to tell you the way to a lot of peopleβs heart is their bellies. And if you take care of them and you make sure that they donβt have atherosclerotic disease in the future, the way youβre youβre tending to your family, the way that most moms and most families tend to their families are. So itβs critical to be able to assess and dynamically change. So our topic today was substitutions, so we need to adapt. And youβve given us some fantastic topics. So I donβt know what weβre going to call you, but weβre going to call you the genie, the magician, the kitchen magician for the substitution magician guru. Yeah, substitution guru. All right. Because Iβll tell you why, one of the things is that as we look at this stuff, we want to bring El Paso the knowledge you have because theyβre going to love this stuff, and theyβre going to be able to reach it out for you. So once again, tell us the website to find it so we can find it.
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[01:01:01] Lizette Ortiz: Yes. Thank you. I hope people get a lot of ideas from this, like even definitely, even if you donβt do exactly what I talked about, like if it gives you ideas for, Oh, Iβm going to try this with this other thing like, please do. You can find my website to find recipes and pictures and everything for all these things. DIY mind-body upgrade, dot com one word, or you can follow me. And this shows up at some point later in the video is at Coach underscore Lizette on Instagram, and I share a lot of my recipes and my workouts and tips on there.
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[01:01:39] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: I saw your Instagram page. Itβs amazing.
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[01:01:41] Lizette Ortiz: Thank you. Yeah, so follow. Even if you follow there, thereβs a link to my website on Instagram. So just follow at Coach underscore Lizette, and you can get a link to everything. Everythingβs linked there. You just follow me on Instagram. You can get access to all these and ask me questions like if you have any questions or if anyone has any ideas for, you know what? I love this, and I know itβs terrible for me. Whatβs an idea for a substitution I would love to? And itβs a challenge here, you know, like I take it as a challenge, and itβs fun for me to come up with healthy versions of things. So let me know.
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[01:02:14] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Thank you so much. Kenna Lee Vaughn, I want to end with you a little bit here. Tell me a bit of what you learned on this whole process here today.
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[01:02:20] Kenna Vaughn: Well, I like what we talked about; Iβve done that eggplant pizza before too. I think that itβs delicious because I love pizza. Itβs the downfall. So the eggplant one is great, and my one-year-old, unfortunately, loves pizza. So itβs good to have substitutions, especially as a mom just ready in your back pocket and ones that donβt take forever because the last thing I want is a starving toddler. But the celery. I have not thought about putting celery in a lot of our dishes, and I love crunchy food, so thatβs something I will be giving a try.
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[01:02:57] Dr. Alex Jimenez DC*: Iβll tell you what and what I loved about this particular setup was that you were very considerate in terms of our bugs. Iβm a big one about the bugs. I got it and the fiber and all the good, the pro, and the pre and the post-biotics to make our bodies healthy and work as they should. I want to thank you again, guys, and we look forward to the next rendition. We sometimes get a little kind of crazy clinical, but today we decided to bring it home because it is the answer from the kitchen to your genes. And when you have the power of cooking food that affects your familyβs genetics or through epigenetic changes and the changes that we get into clinical in this process, you make a difference in your future generations. So itβs not so obvious, but for those who know that we influence our future generations by what we eat, so goodwill and God bless. And again, weβre coming to you from the push fitness center and looking forward to the next connection by guys.
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